Wednesday, September 16, 2009

Plaid Cymru, y dirwasgiad a Barnett

Mae sylwadau Gwilym Euros, ymateb dychanol Simon i dueddiad Llais Gwynedd i feio Plaid Cymru am holl ddrygioni'r Byd a'r drafodaeth sy'n dilyn yn codi pwyntiau diddorol.

Yn gyntaf 'dwi'n meddwl bod Gwilym o dan gamargraff os ydi'n meddwl bod y toriadau mae o a gweddill cynghorwyr Cymru yn gorfod ymgodymu efo nhw yn 2010 yn cael eu gyrru gan y dirwasgiad. Cymhlethdodau'r fformiwla Barnett sy'n gyrru toriadau 2010 yn bennaf. O 2011 hyd 2014 fydd y glec o ganlyniad i'r dirwasgiad yn cael ei gweithredu. Mi fydd canlyniadau hynny'n llawer, llawer gwaeth na'r hyn sydd o'n blaen ar hyn o bryd.

'Rwan mae Simon wedi dangos yn glir iawn bod y Blaid wedi gwrthwynebu toriadau 2011 - 2014. Yr unig bwynt y byddwn yn hoffi ei ychwanegu ynglyn a hynny ydi hyn - o'r pleidiau sydd ar gael yng Nghymru, dim ond y Blaid sydd wedi bod y tu allan i'r consensws o neo ryddfrydiaeth economaidd tros y ddegawd diwethaf - y consensws hwnnw yn annad dim arall a luniodd y tirwedd masnachol a ganiataodd i'r llanast banciau ddigwydd. Byddai'n fwy cywir i ddadlau bod mai yng nghyd destun gwleidyddol Cymru, mai'r Blaid yn unig oedd yn erbyn y gyfundrefn a arweiniodd at y toriadau arfaethiedig.

Y Blaid hefyd ydi'r unig blaid Gymreig sydd eisiau diwygio Barnett er mwyn caniatau i Gymru gael ei chyllido yn ol angen yn hytrach nag yn y ffordd fympwyol y caiff ei chyllido ar hyn o bryd. 'Does yna'r un plaid arall yng Nghymru yn cymryd y safbwynt yna. Mae hi'n bwysicach bod y ddadl yma yn cael ei hennill nawr nag oedd o'r blaen - dyna'r unig ffordd y gallwn osgoi'r toriadau gwirioneddol enbyd sy'n ein hwynebu o 2011 i 2014 - yr unig ffordd.

Felly hoffwn awgrymu gyda chymaint o garedigrwydd ag y gallaf ddod o hyd iddo mai'r peth gorau y gall grwpiau, sydd yn wirioneddol boeni am wariant cyhoeddus yng Nghymru, ei wneud ydi cefnogi ymgyrch y Blaid i ddiwygio Barnett. 'Tydi ceisio beio'r Blaid am greu hinsawdd cyllido sydd wedi ei lunio gan ddigwyddiadau y tu allan i'r wlad ddim o unrhyw gymorth o gwbl. Yr unig beth mae'n ei wneud ydi gwneud y sawl sy'n ceisio gwneud y cysylltiad edrych yn chwerthinllyd o ddi niwed a di glem.

19 comments:

rhydian fôn said...

Di-niwed a di-glem = Gwilym Euros Roberts. Mae Plaid wedi gwrthwynebu Barnett yn gyhoeddus ers degawdau. Mae nhw wedi bod ar flaen y gad yn ymosod ar record Gordon Brown fel Canghellor. Ar y dirwasgiad a torriadau, ydi o wedi edrych ar flogiau Adam, Leanne, Bethan, a ni aelodau cyffredin yn y flwyddyn neu ddwy diwethaf?

Gwil, dwi ddim yn amau dy fod yn gynghorydd da, ond byddai'n syniad cadw dy big allan o faterion nad wyt yn deall rhag gwneud dy hun edrych yn wirion.

GWILYM EUROS ROBERTS said...

Noswaith dda gyfeillion. Dwi'n cytuno 100% hefo chdi Cai fod angen diwygio'r fformiwla a hynny cyn gynted ac sy'n bosib.
Mae'r ddau ohonoch chi a Simon wedi dewis anwybyddu sylfaen fy neges gwreiddiol, wrth gwrs tydw i ddim yn beio'r Blaid am yr holl lanast yma serch hynny mi fedr ac fe dylai'r Blaid wedi gwneud mwy.
Gyda llaw Rhydian mae dy nawddogrwydd erbyn hyn yn blino dyn - dyro gorau i ddi er mwyn bopeth, ti'n dod drosodd fel dyn bach blin a chwerw...gyda llaw mi ddaru mi ddweud dros wythnos yn ol fod angen ail edrych ar Fformiwla Barnett http://gwilymeurosroberts.blogspot.com/2009/09/llanast-mess.html

menaiblog said...

gyda llaw mi ddaru mi ddweud dros wythnos yn ol fod angen ail edrych ar Fformiwla Barnett

Gwir fo'r gair - ond roedd hynny wedi i mi wahodd LlG i ddatgan barn ar y mater.

Mae'r Blaid wrthi ers blynyddoedd - dy ddatganiad di ar flog oedd y sylw cyntaf i mi glywed gan LlG ar y mater.

Lle ydach chi wedi bod?

rhydian fôn said...

Nawddogrwydd. Mi welodd pawb dy bostiad yn galw am ail-edrych ar Fformiwla Barnett wythnos yn ol. Ond mae Dafydd Wigley ac Eurfyl ap Gwilym wedi bod wrthi ers 1978, pan grewyd y fformiwla, a'n rhybuddio am 'Barnett Squeeze' ers degawdau, felly mae'n amlwg nad wyt yn talu sylw.

Ers datganoli, mae'r Blaid wedi bod wrthi'n brysur yn galw am ddiwygio'r fformiwla - rwyf innau'n bersonol wedi bod yn gweithio ar bapurau ar y fformiwla. Ein llafur ni arweiniodd at adroddiad Holtham!

Ar y dirwasgiad, mae'r peth wedi bod ar flaen meddwl Plaid ers iddo gychwyn, gyda beirniadaeth hallt iawn o Gordon Brown. Gan gynnwys ar ein blogiau. Yn bersonol, mae 30 o'n 62 blog ers yr 1af o Ionawr yn beirniadu Llafur ar eu ymateb i'r dirwasgiad, neu yn uniongyrchol ar dorriadau!

Lle wyt ti wedi bod?

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