Monday, March 23, 2009

Bangor a Llais Gwynedd


Ymddengys bod Llais Gwynedd eisiau cydweithio efo grwp newydd sydd wedi ei ffurfio i hybu buddiannau dinas Bangor ar draul gweddill Gwynedd.

Mae hyn yn newyddion digon diddorol. Dadl arferol Llais Gwynedd ydi bod gormod o adnoddau yn cael eu buddsoddi ar Lannau'r Fenai - ond ymddengys eu bod hefyd o'r farn nad oes digon o adnoddau'n cael eu buddsoddi ar Lannau'r Fenai.

Wna i ddim aros llawer efo'r idiotrwydd yma, ag eithrio i nodi bod y sefyllfa'n cefnogi fy nadansoddiad o Lais Gwynedd fel plaid gwrth Plaid Cymru yn annad dim arall. Mae gwrthwynebu Plaid Cymru yn ninas Bangor yn llawer pwysicach iddynt nag ydi cynnal dadl tros gynyddu adnoddau yn rhannau gwledig y sir.

Mi wnaf serch hynny ddweud gair neu ddau am ddinas Bangor a'i gwleidyddiaeth. 'Rwan, rhag i neb gam ddeall, mae'r ddinas yn annwyl iawn i mi - mae gen i gysylltiadau teuluol agos iawn efo'r ddinas, a roeddwn yn byw yno pan oeddwn yn fabi.

Serch hynny mae yna agwedd ymysg elfennau o boblogaeth Bangor bod y ddinas yn ddi freintiedig o'i chymharu a gweddill Gwynedd, ac nad ydi hi'n cael ei siar dyledus o adnoddau. 'Dwi ddim yn amau bod rhan o'r agwedd yma yn deillio o wahaniaethau diwylliannol rhwng Bangor a'r rhannau poblog o'r sir sydd yn union i'r De a'r Gorllewin iddi. Saesneg ydi iaith y rhan fwyaf o drigolion Bangor, y Gymraeg ydi iaith ei chymdogion agosaf. Mae rhai swyddi cyhoeddus yn rhai lle mae'n rhaid gallu siarad y Gymraeg i'w cael. O ganlyniad mae llai o'r swyddi cyhoeddus yma ar gael i Fangor, a mwy i rai o'r cymunedau o'i chwmpas.

Beth bynnag am wreiddiau'r agwedd yma, mae'n gwbl, gwbl gyfeiliornus. Bangor ydi'r rhan mwyaf breintiedig o'r sir o ran buddsoddiad cyhoeddus a phreifat. Mae dau o brif gyflogwyr y Gogledd - Prifysgol Gogledd Cymru ac Ysbyty Gwynedd wedi eu lleoli yno. Mae hynny ynddo'i hun yn pwmpio degau o filiynau yn flynyddol i economi Bangor a'r cylch. Ar gyrion Bangor mae datblygiad enfawr Parc Menai wedi ei leoli - parc busnes sydd wedi denu buddsoddiad cyhoeddus a phreifat anferthol. Ym Mangor y ceir unig barc manwerthu Gwynedd - os mai dyna'r term cywir am y stribedyn o siopau mawr sy'n ymestyn ar hyd y lon tua'r Gorllewin. Mae cyfran uchel iawn o'r swyddi preifat sydd wedi eu creu yng Ngwynedd tros yr ugain mlynedd diwethaf wedi bod yn ardal Bangor - a pholisiau awdurdodau cyhoeddus sydd wedi bod yn gyfrifol am hyn oll.



CAST Technium ym Mharc Menai.

Mae gan Fangor bron ddwywaith cymaint o ysgolion na Chaernarfon - er nad oes gwahaniaeth mawr mewn poblogaeth. Cafwyd tri phrosiect adeiladu ysgolion mawr yng Ngwynedd yn ystod y blynyddoedd diweddar - Ysgol Pendalar ar gyfer plant ag anhawsterau dysgu dybryd yng Nghaernarfon, ac ysgolion Friars a Chae Top ym Mangor. Lleolir canolfan hamdden orau'r sir yno - ac er nad y Cyngor Sir sydd piau Maes Glas (y Brifysgol yw'r perchenog), caiff pawb ei ddefnyddio. Lleolir pydew llyncu pres mwyaf y Gogledd yno hefyd - Pwll Nofio Bangor - mae colledion y sefydliad yma'n llawer iawn uwch na chyfanswm colledion dau sefydliad gwledig sy'n debygol o gau'n fuan oherwydd diffyg cyllid - Pwll Nofio Harlech, a Chanolfan Hamdden y Bala.

Mae arweinydd cwynwyr Bangor - Nigel Pickavance - yn poeni nad oes cymaint o lewyrch ar Stryd Fawr Bangor nag a fu - ond mae hynny'n wir am bron i bob canol tref yn y DU ar hyn o bryd. Mae'n amlwg i unrhyw un sydd a'r mymryn lleiaf o wybodaeth am y Gogledd Orllewin bod llawer llai o siopau gweigion ym Mangor na sydd yn nhrefi cyfagos Caernarfon, Llangefni a Chaergybi.

Oherwydd hyn oll 'does gen i yn bersonol ddim llawer o gydymdeimlad gyda Mr Pickavance a'i ddilynwyr. Yr hyn a fydd o syndod i rai (ond nid i mi) ydi nad ydi Llais Gwynedd o'r un farn a mi

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Cyng./Cllr.Gwilym Euros Roberts said...

Cai,
Ar y cyfan mae dy ddadansoddiad di yn un teg iawn. Ond unwaith eto...ti'n anelu dy wn at Llais Gwynedd...pam? Nid oes gan Llais Gwynedd unrhyw aelodau yn ardal Bangor, nid oes gan Llais Gwynedd unrhyw rhan hyd y gwn i yn y brotest dydd Sadwrn...a'r ffaith fod Mr Pickavance wedi datgan ei edmygedd tuag at Llais sydd wedi dy gynddeiriogi? Ti'n iawn i ddweud fod Llais Gwynedd wedi codi amheuon mawr am gynllun Mon/Menai o be welai mae Mr Pickavance yn gofyn am adnoddau cymunedol yn fwy na dim....siawns gall gynghorwyr ardal Bangor ddod ynghyd a chydweithio gyda aelodau o'r gymuned i ddatrys y sefyllfa heb daflu baw at Lais Gwynedd na neb arall. Dwi wedi ceisio bod yn gymodlon yn fan yma oherwydd dwi'n deallt yn iawn nad yw'r sefyllfa hon mor ddu a gwyn o'r naill ochr ond mae'n amlwg fod angen pontio gyda'r gymuned ac fod cynnig y Cyng John Wynn Jones i gwrdd a Mr Pickavance i drafod ei bryderon yn un ffordd o ddechrau hynny.

menaiblog said...

'Dydi'r sefyllfa ddim yn fy nghynddeiriogi.

Mae Mr Pickavance yn gofyn am fwy nag adnoddau cymunedol mae gen i ofn. Mae o eisiau tipyn o bob dim - fel mae'n dweud It extends to many things - so much students accommodation, lack of children's facilities, lack of quality development, the streets are just run down. Mae o hefyd o'r farn bod ei ddinas ar farw ac ymddengys ei fod hyd yn oed o'r farn y dylai gweddill Gwynedd ariannu sinema ym Mangor.

'Dwi'n codi Llais Gwynedd oherwydd ei bod yn ymddangos eich bod yn siarad o ddwy ochr eich ceg - dweud ar y naill llaw yn y Wynedd Wledig bod gormod yn mynd i Lannau'r Fenai - ac wedyn cytuno ym Mangor gyda phobl sy'n meddwl nad ydi'r ddinas yn cael digon - hy os ydi Mr Pickavance i'w gredu - a fedra i ddim gweld pam y byddai'n dweud celwydd ar y mater yma.

Anonymous said...

Helo chi'ch dau!

Dwn i ddim am y drafodaeth LLG ond o safbwynt datblygu economaidd mae defnyddio Parc Menai fel esiampl o fuddsoddiad ym Mangor yn hurt. Tydi cyrraedd Parc Menai o ganol Bangor yn ddim haws nac o ganol Caernarfon / Porthaethwy / Llanfairpwll. Y mae'n lleoliad llwyddiannus oherwydd natur strategol y datblygiad ar ochr yr A55 - diffyg dealltwriaeth sylfaenol o natur y datblygiad yw awgrymu mai buddsoddiad ym Mangor yw Parc Menai.

Yn yr un modd y mae Ysbyty Gwynedd, Y Brifysgol a Choleg Menai yn gyflogwyr sylweddol iawn ond nid cyflogwyr ym Mangor ydynt ond cyflogwyr ar lefel strategol yng Ngogledd Orllewin Cymru. Y mae honni fod bodolaeth y cyflogwyr hyn ym Mangor yn golygu fod elw yn dod i Fangor ar draul Gwynedd yn hurt. Y mae'n cymharu ar awgrym gan rai ym Mangor fod bodolaeth Cyngor Gwynedd yng Nghaernarfon yn golygu fod Caernarfon yn elwa ar draul Bangor. Rwtsh di-sail yw dadleuon o'r fath.

O ran cyflogwyr megis Ysbyty Gwynedd, y Brifysgol neu Gyngor Gwynedd does mond angen anelu am Ynys Món yn y bore i weld fod cyflogaeth sector gyhoeddus Bangor yn allweddol i Fón ac nid jyst Bangor. Yn yr un modd y mae dilyn traffig i fyny allt y Faenol i Barc Menai yn dangos fod Parc Menai yn gyflogwr sylweddol i bobl sy'n byw i'r gorllewin o ddinas Bangor. O ran Cyngor Gwynedd - wel does ond angen anelu allan o Gaernarfon i gyfeiriad Pwllheli / Porthmadog / Bangor i weld fod y Cyngor Sir yn denu nifer i'r dref er mwyn rhoi'r cyfle iddynt ennill cyflog.

Rwan - ymlaen a'ch dadl!

menaiblog said...

Anhysbys

'Dwi ddim yn dadlau mai 'mond Bangor sy'n elwa o'r canolfanau cyflogaeth mawr sydd ar gyrion y ddinas, a 'dwi'n sicr ddim yn dadlau bod hynny ar draul gweddill Gwynedd - ond mi fyddwn yn dadlau bod Bangor yn cael mwy o fudd ohonynt na neb arall oherwydd bod y lleoliad mor agos.

Mae Bangor yn cael rhywfaint mwy o fudd o Barc Menai na Phenygroes er enghraifft - mae'n cael mwy o lawer iawn, iawn na'r Blaenau neu Dywyn sydd ymhellach o lawer.

Yr agosatrwydd hwn at brif ganolfanau gwaith y Gogledd Orllewin a'r manteision economaidd sy'n dod yn sgil hynny sy'n gwneud cymhlethdod dioddefaint Mr Pickavance yn amhriodol.

Hogia'r Felin said...

Mae dadl Cai yn wirion bost. Ac mae Anhysbys yn llygad ei le. YG a Parc Menai allan o Bangor, mae Ynys Mon yn elwa mwy na Bangor o'r sefydliadau hyn.

Y Coleg wel, bendant mae Bangor yn elwa. Ond dwi rwan yn gweld Wrecsam yn well lle siopa na Bangor a Llandudno efo'i gilydd.

Mae yna le yng Ngwynedd i nifer o bleidiau/mudiadau bychain eu maint, beth sydd allan o'i le yn cael grwp o Bangor, Grwp Caernarfon, Grwp Pwllheli ac yn y blaen, efallai fuasai Gwynedd wedyn yn cael ei redeg yn well nag sydd wedi bod yn cael ei redeg gan grwp y Blaid sydd yn anffodus wedi gwneud llanast llwyr o bopeth.

menaiblog said...

'Does yna neb yn dadlau hyd y gwn i mai dim ond Bangor sy'n elwa o Barc Menai, Ysbyty Gwynedd ac ati.

'Does yna neb yn dadlau chwaith bod y sefydliadau hyn wedi eu lleoli ym Mangor am resymau nad ydynt yn rhai dilys. Mae lleoliad Bangor mewn perthynas a'r is strwythur trafnidiaeth yn greiddiol i'r penderfyniadau sydd wedi arwain at y lleoliadau. Rhesymeg tebyg sydd wrth wraidd y penderfyniad i leoli carchar newydd rhwng Caernarfon a Bangor.

Ond byddai dadlau nad ydi Bangor yn elwa o hyn oll yn gymharol a llefydd sydd ymhellach oddi wrthynt yn wir yn wirion bost.

Mae'r syniad o gael cyfundrefn wleidyddol sydd wedi ei seilio ar gystadleuaeth rhwng rhannau gwahanol o'r Sir yn amlwg yn wrthyn i unrhyw un sy'n meddwl am y peth am ddau funud. Ni fyddai'r syniad o degwch yn ystyriaeth wrth reoli - ac yn y pen draw byddai'r holl rym yn mynd i gyfeiriad yr ardaloedd trefol, poblog.

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